Tremor RIP
SPIDERMAN SPIDERMAN, DOES WHATEVER A SPIDER CAN
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Yaz tells your group '3'
644H 120V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> sca
Yaz tells your group '2'
644H 120V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> Looking north:
You see nothing special.
The waitress sits behind the counter waiting to serve you a drink. (white aura)
Looking east:
You see nothing special.
Yaz, Nowclan's Defender of the Fens is standing here. (flying) (invisible)
Looking south:
You see nothing special.
Oppadallyo, Roaring Bear in Brk'ly Forest is resting here. (flying)
The manager of Traveler's Lodge stands here ready to sign you in. (white aura)
A tall and strong bouncer, hired to protect the lodge's customers, stands here.
Looking west:
You see nothing special.
Thumper, The Official Basher of Sigil is resting here. (flying)
Looking up:
You see nothing special.
Looking down:
You see nothing special.
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Yaz tells your group '1'
644H 120V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> sca
Yamoto flies east.
You follow Yamoto east.
Vingaard Avenue South
This is Vingaard Avenue, a well traveled street that runs north-south
through Kalaman. To the north, you see the busy town square and bazaar.
Looking south, you see the poorer part of town, less frequented by the
general populace. The Traveler's Lodge is to the west and a fine diner is
to the east.
Yamoto the Male Half Elf is standing here. (flying)
. . . has a tough exterior.
Yaz, Nowclan's Defender of the Fens is standing here. (flying) (invisible)
644H 119V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> Looking north:
You see nothing special.
Looking east:
You see nothing special.
A cityguard stands here, keeping a wary eye out for troublemakers. (white aura)
A waitress is here ready to take your order. (white aura)
Looking south:
You see nothing special.
A tired traveller is looking around for the town's inn.
Looking west:
You see nothing special.
Looking up:
You see nothing special.
Looking down:
You see nothing special.
644H 119V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> bas tremor
You couldn't find what you were looking for.
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Yamoto flies west.
Yaz flies west.
You follow Yamoto west.
Traveler's Lodge
The lodge is famous for its hospitality and friendly service. The
lodge also has its own cafe, where they make great tasting coffee. There is
also a lounge for the guests to rest and relax or do some reading. The
entrance is quite large and open; you get a feeling you will enjoy your
stay here already.
Yaz, Nowclan's Defender of the Fens is standing here. (flying) (invisible)
Yamoto the Male Half Elf is standing here. (flying)
. . . has a tough exterior.
644H 118V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> sca
Looking north:
You see nothing special.
The waitress sits behind the counter waiting to serve you a drink. (white aura)
Looking east:
You see nothing special.
Looking south:
You see nothing special.
Tiran the Male Half Elf is standing here. (invisible) (white aura)
Oppadallyo, Roaring Bear in Brk'ly Forest is resting here. (flying)
The manager of Traveler's Lodge stands here ready to sign you in. (white aura)
A tall and strong bouncer, hired to protect the lodge's customers, stands here.
Looking west:
You see nothing special.
Thumper, The Official Basher of Sigil is resting here. (flying)
Looking up:
You see nothing special.
Looking down:
You see nothing special.
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Yamoto tells your group 'fuck'
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Yamoto flies east.
Yaz flies east.
You follow Yamoto east.
Vingaard Avenue South
This is Vingaard Avenue, a well traveled street that runs north-south
through Kalaman. To the north, you see the busy town square and bazaar.
Looking south, you see the poorer part of town, less frequented by the
general populace. The Traveler's Lodge is to the west and a fine diner is
to the east.
Yaz, Nowclan's Defender of the Fens is standing here. (flying) (invisible)
Yamoto the Male Half Elf is standing here. (flying)
. . . has a tough exterior.
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Yaz tells your group 'he left'
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bas tremor
Tremor flies in from the south.
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Yamoto tells your group 'where di he run'
644H 117V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> sca
You crash into Tremor in a bone crunching bash, sending him sprawling to the ground.
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Yamoto massacres Tremor with his slash.
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Yaz tells your group 'Tick in 10!!'
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Yamoto's sword starts to vibrate softly in his hand.
Yamoto begins to become blurry and hard to see.
Yamoto smiles as the air around him solidifies.
Yamoto massacres Tremor with his slash.
Yamoto slashes Tremor extremely hard.
You massacre Tremor with your crush.
Tremor misses you with his slash.
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Suffering flies in from the south.
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Suffering flies north.
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Yamoto utters some strange words.
644H 117V 15110981X 342C [Grauth:Perfect] [Tremor:Fair] Exits:NESW> bas
You annihilate Tremor with your crush.
Tremor slashes YOU hard.
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Yaz focuses harshly on Tremor and utters some strange words.
Yaz slowly fades into existence.
Yaz sends a chilling blast of air at Tremor, giving him a severe case of frostbite.
637H 117V 15110981X 342C [Grauth:V.Good] [Tremor:Fair] Exits:NESW> Looking north:
You see nothing special.
Looking east:
You see nothing special.
Looking south:
You see nothing special.
Looking west:
You see nothing special.
Looking up:
You see nothing special.
Looking down:
You see nothing special.
637H 117V 15110981X 342C [Grauth:V.Good] [Tremor:Fair] Exits:NESW> You crash into Tremor in a bon
e crunching bash, sending him sprawling to the ground.
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Yamoto utters some strange words.
The room is suddenly enveloped in darkness.
637H 117V 15110981X 342C [Grauth:V.Good] [Tremor:Fair] Exits:NESW>
You annihilate Tremor with your crush.
Tremor slashes YOU hard.
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Yamoto attacks Tremor with lightning fast series of attacks that leaves him defenseless.
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Yamoto massacres Tremor with his slash.
Yamoto massacres Tremor with his slash.
You annihilate Tremor with your crush.
Tremor misses you with his slash.
Tremor spasms as Yamoto places his hand on Tremor's chest.
Tremor shivers and begins to grow extremely pale.
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Xzercist flies in from the north.
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Xzercist flies west.
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Tremor says 'im dead'
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bas tremor
Tremor stands up.
634H 139V 15110981X 342C [Grauth:V.Good] [Tremor:Awful] Exits:NESW> Tremor doesn't recover as you
deliver the bash -- he is dead.
You receive 0 experience.
get coins corpse
Tremor is dead! R.I.P.
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The death cry of Tremor echoes from somewhere nearby...
Tremor sinks gently to the ground.
634H 139V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> get all tremor
Yamoto says 'hahahahaha'
634H 139V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> sa good
Yaz tells your group 'nice'
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Suffering flies in from the north.
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Suffering flies south.
634H 139V 15110981X 342C Exits:NESW> You get a large pile of coins from the corpse of Tremor.
sp 621
There were 621 coins.
634H 139V 15110981X 963C Exits:NESW> You get a large first-aid kit from the corpse of Tremor.
You get an odd long sword from the corpse of Tremor.
You get a set of demon wings from the corpse of Tremor.
You get a carved marble shield from the corpse of Tremor.
You get a headband adorned with eagle's feathers from the corpse of Tremor.
You get a small canteen from the corpse of Tremor.
You get a small canteen from the corpse of Tremor.
You get a small canteen from the corpse of Tremor.
You get an iron ration from the corpse of Tremor.
You get an iron ration from the corpse of Tremor.
You get an iron ration from the corpse of Tremor.
634H 139V 15110981X 963C Exits:NESW> You say 'good'
634H 139V 15110981X 963C Exits:NESW> You divide 621 coins equally among the group members present
.
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87 comments
Or maybe it's just when Corey does?
Corey, Yes and you're ruining them more!
Your prior two posts were idiotic at best.
If Corey had found a bug in the game and started using it to his advantage, that would be wrong. However, there is no bug involved in what Corey is doing. Whether or not darkness is changed in the future, Corey has done nothing wrong.
Bye.
It's not the fact that it's a bug.
It's taking a tactic to an extreme.
Adam: I didn't say there was abuse in this log... not yet.
The charm spells weren't considered bugs, but were nerfed to balance.
Relocate wasn't a bug, but was nerfed to balance.
Brew and Scribe weren't bugs, but were nerfed to balance.
Anything can be taken too far. And corey/adam are the a few ones with the sinister tricksyness to take it to a new level where it needs to be rebalanced.
Rurh! Ru-Rurh! *cough* RURH RURH! Rururururuuuuuuh!
Lights > Darkness
Edwai - I don't pk? Says who?
I just don't trust the site enough to reveal multis by posting a log. Already got burned by that quite awhile ago.
Btw, who the hell is tremor?
And brew/scribe was a tactic meant to be used for.
What's your point?
Mine is that things can be taken too far.
If they perfect the situation, unless a person has nv, they won't be able to escape.
Dko.globe
thiewar.dynomite
I see something wrong here.
Corey and Adam are TRICKSY! Heh.
Anyways, I don't think this is abuse. From what I've read neither does Rurh. What he said is that if the trend continues it could be an issue.
On another note pushing the limits is good in some aspects. It premotes change (for better or worse) and the likes of Corey and Adam have been good at finding loopholes in the past. That is part of what makes them good at what they do.
Whether or not I agree with it is irrelevant ATM but there is some sort of admirable quality there.
P.S. Is Salcha really a man?
RURH HAS FINALLY LOST HIS VIRGINITY. THE VIRGINITY OF HIS ANUS AND MOUTH, AS WELL AS BOTH EYESOCKETS, AS HE WAS BRUTALLY RAPED BY A GANG OF BLOODS AND CRIPS. APPARENTLY THE 2 NOTORIOUSLY RIVAL GANGS HONORED A TEMPORARY TRUCE FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF SKULLFUCKING RURH. SOURCES SAY THE VICTIM WAS THRILLED AT ALL THE ATTENTION HE RECEIVED
Learn to read.
Rick
Brafu - Not everyone can get nightvision.
There was nothing wrong with using relocate. There was nothing wrong with using brew/scribe. There was nothing wrong with using charm person. There was nothing wrong with mages keeping spells on death. There was nothing wrong with clair giving the information it did.
Get the idea?
"What that allows is players do apply game mechanics how they see fit, and to apply them to whatever/whoever they choose."
You mean like breadbombing? That's applying game mechanics in a way they see fit.
And you're talking about occurances which happen rarely.
I do think this (darkness) will get nerfed if people are too moronic to combat it though. I hope not but it would keep with old practices, I think i can point to at least a few things that have changed due to being "too useful" in pvp.
Its amazing how Rurh comments on this but theres several logs of Dagam using the daze + silence + weariness combo and yet Rurh says shit. Thats the exact same thing thats happening here. Spells are being used to their potential in pk.
But as soon as Corey and Adam do it, it must be horribly wrong and they are taking it to the extreme.
Rick
First message in this thread.
Rurh: Watch them ***abuse*** this tactic till it has to be nerfed, as usual.
Do you like getting owned?
Rick
Oh and before you can try to make some claim about how what you do is in no way "politics"
. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Intrigue or maneuvering within a political unit or group in order to gain control or power: Partisan politics is often an obstruction to good government. Office politics are often debilitating and counterproductive.
5. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) Political attitudes and positions: His politics on that issue is his own business. Your politics are clearly more liberal than mine.
6. (used with a sing. or pl. verb) The often internally conflicting interrelationships among people in a society.
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How does "They are going to abuse" turn into "They are currently abusing"?
You also haven't countered my examples of past 'tactics' that were considered perfectly reasonable, but were nerfed because people abused it.
I must say, Rick, that out of all those people who regularily respond to me, your posts tend to be the most retarded. I almost feel bad for you.
It's safe to ignore him.
You're the only one doing that.
The best defense, is a kickass offense.
Anyone who can't counter darkness with simple eq or a minute or two of prep deserves what they get. Darkness can only be affective when people have no clue its going to be used.
Anyone who can't counter 4x solamnic knight charmies deserve what they get.
Anyone who gets massive amounts of scribed/brewed treats deserves what they get.
Anyone who thinks Rurh is a fag deserves what they get, A cookie
Anyone who thinks Rurh should SHUT THE FUCKING HELL UP, is correct.
You are so funny!
This was not changed because mages were reloing to groups and then prisming them. This was changed because trash mages were doing it, not caring if they died, and sometimes they would get a kill or two. Learn your facts.
Rurh: Anyone who can't counter 4x solamnic knight charmies deserve what they get.
This was nerfed because you CANT control someone else charming things.
Rurh: Anyone who gets massive amounts of scribed/brewed treats deserves what they get.
Once again, this was nerfed because you CANT control how much someone else brews.
Rurh: because of my awesome examples above, if corey and adam abuse this in the future, it should be nerfed
Difference here is, you CAN control whether you die. Have shards with you, rem neckwear, wear all.shard, rec recall. Shards are super easy to get. And if you cant do this before they damage you to death, you were dead anyway. This all can be done sitting and they wont attempt another bash at you as corey is bash triggered.
Rick
Both mage bombing and high-powered charmies were effective in nice eq or naked. Trash abused it, it got altered because of it. Rarely did a stacked mage relo and bomb an enemy group, compared to the amount of trash that did it.
"This was not changed because mages were reloing to groups and then prisming them. This was changed because trash mages were doing it, not caring if they died, and sometimes they would get a kill or two."
The difference is trivial. The fact is, the technique was not considered abuse until it was abused.
"This was nerfed because you CANT control someone else charming things."
You can't control someone bashing you either. What's your point?
Ever hear of the spell 'dispel magic'?
"Once again, this was nerfed because you CANT control how much someone else brews."
And? It was not considered a bug, but a technique. It was abused. It was nerfed. If it wasn't it'd still be in the same state that it was today.
"Difference here is, you CAN control whether you die. Have shards with you, rem neckwear, wear all.shard, rec recall. Shards are super easy to get."
The difference here is, the exact technique they used in the log isn't what I'm talking about.
The difference is that adding another dk allows for 4 darknesses before bashlag wears.
How easily can you scrape up 4 lights at a moment's notice without warning?
Add another dk, and that's 6 darknesses before bashlag wears. Can you scrape up 6 lights?
This is the 'taking it to an extreme' that I'm talking about.
Brafu:
"Any person who has a recall alias can also create a alias for wearing/holding 3 or 4 lights to counter darkness and then recall. "
See above.
Patrick:
I don't give a rats ass whether you like me or not.
,!,,
3 dks and a basher.
Unless the person is lucky enough to have a recall pot or special wand, the person is dead.
Yet I've survived 10man of BSD vs. me.
Having your dks(or cleric) pre-darkness, and you'd only need 2 helpers.
Just because you have no idea where to load some night vision eq doesn't mean its not fairly simple to get some. Plus as far as I can tell they are not random pking atm. So the people they are attacking have the ability to easily obtain nv eq and if they choose to ignore that advantage then that is their fault.
I'm finally starting to see why everyone thinks you are just a complaining bitch...... Give it a rest man. Its not even a remote problem and in all probability it never will be one. Its just too easy to counter.
3 dks and a basher.
Unless the person is lucky enough to have a recall pot or special wand, the person is dead.
Rurh, it's common knowledge that you're the one who doesn't get it.
What about a basher and 3 mages? 3 druids? I doubt many people can save 6 paras if the druids are high levels.
How about a druid and 3 thieves? Or even 3 druids and a thief? 3 mages? clerics? Superior numbers and firepower Rurh. I know you're not an intelligent person, but your arguement is just horrible now, even for you.
Will you bitch if 10 dks run around trying to pk with massive darkness? Will you cry when 10 druids or mages do it?
I guess this wouldn't be a problem in your ideal arctic, where pk and nonpk can't interact, which would somehow be good for the mud because people would have even harder times getting groupsif they aren't clanned or playing in a lab.
if people don't like it, come up with an equally creative way to counter it. (anyone roll a paladin lately?)
Brafu: Yes night vision items exist. Yes Rurh knows where to load them. No Rurh has not been pk'd due to this tactic. So whether or not he knows how and where to load them is pretty irrelevant to Tremor getting pk'd I'd say. Not to mention it's not feasible to think that every person could have a night vision. Stop being an idiot.
Give it up.
Rick
Brafu: You said, "its not even a remote problem and in all probability it never will be one. Its just too easy to counter."
That may be true but the same could have been said for bread bombing. opt refuse_item
Again, that is not to say this will be changed at all. Just fucking pay attention and realize he's not saying THIS WILL BE CHANGED. He said if the issue is pushed it may be ruined such as other things were. He then went on to state what things were.
All of your problems are that you don't try to listen.
The point I was trying to make, that you and Rurh obviously refuse to see, is that this type of tactic can only be affective for so long, before people smarten up and learn how to easily counter it. These logs we have read so far have dealt only with people who probably had no idea that darkness was going to be used and as such it schooled them. That is the only point I was trying to make.
So before you start calling a person an idiot why don't you think about what they said before you decide to blindly use your typical rhetoric of childish name calling.
EDIT:: Rurh is just trying to start an argument like he always does, and then you two get all pissy when people get sick of it and voice their opinions.
EDIT #2:: I had created that post right after you said I was being an idiot in another post. I just happen to have left my computer without posting it so by the time I got back you had already created new posts and whatnot. My first edit is aimed at your newer posts.
Nonetheless, I do have an open mind and have shared my opinion on the matter. Read my previous posts and comment on Mike's post.
That does not excuse the rest of the people for posting without taking the time to think before they respond. It's just rude.
-Derek
As "usual"? I don't believe I have ever really clashed with Rurh in much of anything in the past... so my "usual" can't really be determined now can it? Don't try and group me with the people who mindlessly flame when they get pissed.
And my "personal attack" on rurh was extremely minor compared to what the both of you do on a daily basis. Plus I only said I see why people would call him a "complaining bitch", what my own feels about rurh are I shall keep to myself, since I try to keep the maturity of my posts above a high school level. May not always succeed =P But at-least I make the effort.
EDIT::Grammar correction.
"Just because you have no idea where to load some night vision eq doesn't mean its not fairly simple to get some."
I do. Probably more than you.
That doesn't mean everyone does/can.
"Plus as far as I can tell they are not random pking atm. So the people they are attacking have the ability to easily obtain nv eq and if they choose to ignore that advantage then that is their fault."
Yes, everyone's running around with nightvision items.
What does the fact they aren't randoming have to do with the other person's equipment?
"even a remote problem and in all probability it never will be one. Its just too easy to counter"
I didn't say it was. I've said if anyone could turn it into a problem, it'd be Corey/Adam. I've explained the potential.
"Hey fagmaster the difference is NOT trivial. 4 stacked mages can bomb all they want,"
But it isn't. The initial nerf was the relocate confusion flag. If the person is suiciding as trash, this doesn't help the situation out much.
Serious magebombing it hinders.
In the end, it's usually the trash doing it anyway. But the fact is, it wasn't considered an abuse till it was abused.
"Autohasted 15+dam elite prim nobash/recall if held item/ imm fire/elec/cold 600+ tank is abuse of wearing eq. That kind of character really doesnt stand much chance of dying even if attacking a 6-7 man group if player is smart."
What was that Corey was saying about them being stopped with huma shield, etc, because they were 'unkillable'?
"you wouldnt have as much to bitch about "
Here, you are assuming that I am a victim. I'm not.
Why would I be 'bitching' about something that hasn't involved me?
"What about a basher and 3 mages? 3 druids? I doubt many people can save 6 paras if the druids are high levels."
Depends. There's a greater chance of making it out alive than the basher 2x dk.
"Superior numbers and firepower Rurh. "
That's the point.. it wouldn't take as many people to be as devistating.
We had a similar issue with bash. People keeping another person floored without the ability to recall or anything.
That wasn't considered a problem...
"Will you cry when 10 druids or mages do it?"
If you had a 10man group, running around, entry 10x fb-ing people, taking out some of the most equipped people in the mud, I guarantee you that it wouldn't be long before something was done about it.
"be good for the mud because people would have even harder times getting groupsif they aren't clanned or "
This is a seperate topic. If you'd like to discuss it, you can find the available thread in the Arctic Forums.
"think it is admirable that they can come up with something such as this."
The admiriability has little to do with whether it is considered abuse or not.
"if people don't like it, come up with an equally creative way to counter it. (anyone roll a paladin lately?) "
You would have to stand to cast brilliance.
Rick:
"Give it up."
Never!
"is that this type of tactic can only be affective for so long, before people smarten up and learn how to easily counter it."
That's not really the point. A lot of people even forget to buy recalls, or don't have recalls handy, and somesuch.
To expect everyone to go out of their way to seek down those irritating-to-get alternatives (which are often norent), every time they log on, just because someone learned to abuse a tactic in the game... needs balancing.
And that's all I've really said. That they have the potential to develop the tactic till it's decided something needs to be balanced.
"Rurh is just trying to start an argument like he always does"
Rarely do I start arguments. Most of the time I make an offhand comment, and people come out of the woodwork to attack me from all sides.
And naturally, I respond.
"and then you two get all pissy when people get sick of it and voice their opinions."
You only have to look at my accounts thread to see what I mean. No one was interested in constructive critisism or developing an idea.. simply shooting down anything I say.
"Don't try and group me with the people who mindlessly flame when they get pissed."
Only time I've gotten 'pissed' is when someone would bring up a retort, I'd easily refute it.. the next guy would bring up the same retort, I'd refute it again. The next guy would bring up the same freaking retort.. I'd refute it agian.
Then after the 16th time, I just start saying "Well reread what I've said", and when I start doing that, then people start saying that's all I've been saying and I never made the original refutation.
That's a bit irritating.
You should know by now, and I'm not saying that you don't, that so long as a post looks as if the person took some time and effort and put some thought into it, then I'm more than willing to take it at face value and give it a fair read. But you have to understand that many people don't like your little offhand remarks and they get pissed and so they express that anger in posts.
You just need to stop taking pot shots at people with the little snide remarks you make in many of your posts and I'm sure atleast a few people will start taking your posts seriously. Go and read that one thread on the forum, the one about the seperate realm idea thing, and you will notice that you made a few offhand remarks to me that could only have been an attempt at pissing me off and getting me to flame you.
Maybe it was just out of reflex because everyone is always flaming you and such. But it might help if you stopped doing it and didn't sink down to their level all the time. Why do you think I finally stopped making replies to Benwa? And yes I know I did make a comment about you smoking something and some such.. but it was a harmless comment and not meant in a mean spirited way =P
PS. And yes I realize my posts are a tad long for a log comment so I will stop posting in this one and refrain from allowing my usual need to... rant? Explain everything in great detail? hmm not sure what it is but I will stop doing it in this log comment =P
P.S. Nearly all elite bows don't even work right still.
Rurh: to be honest I have no problem with you, I think I grouped with you a few times last wipe. I do think you should realise however that although your arguments are fairly well constructed, often the information you lay down as fact is simply not correct. I'm not certain how long you have been playing Arctic, I would guess no more than two or three years on and off, but you need to understand that there are alot of players who are vastly more experienced than you. I would suggest that instead of trying to pass yourself off as Arctic's foremost expert on the politics and mechanics of the game, you try and improve your personal zoning knowledge and perhaps even try and join or even form a clan to retaliate against the people who are trying to kill you. A clan of 3 or 4 or 5 friends with the current exp system should be able to form some ambushes easily.